********************************** The Western Canon Mailing List Moderator: Paul John Barnette Jr. Activation Date: March 8, 1997 Current Date: May 1,1997 Current Membership: 42 ********************************** It's May 1st and time to start reading Milton, but before we all begin to discuss Paradise Lost I would like to give some parting thoughts on Veblen. It was mentioned in a previous posting that many experts rank Veblen below Weber because of Veblen's unempirical style. I quess these experts prefer to see economics as a mere number crunching subject. I suspect this results from a desire to make economics more 'scientific' and 'objective'. Many in the social sciences attempt to use the physical sciences as their model, and this usually leeds to an ever increasing reliance on mathematical analysis. They believe that such an approach will have a greater success in discovering the truth. Personally, I have grave doubts about this approach. To reduce the human, i.e. social sciences to a series of cold equations does not seem to me to be necessarily the path to truth, and definitely not the path to wisdom. To me Veblen's "The Theory of of the Leisure Class" was never intended to be either 'scientific' or even 'objective'. Instead it is a very skillful exercise in rhetoric (I would say propaganda, but so many consider that to be a dirty word). The manner in which Veblen presents his 'facts' is specifically designed to draw a very negative picture of the wealthy, even though he explicitly denies this. In fact, I suspect the even this denial was part of his master plan. The vocabulary and examples that Veblen uses are anything but flattering. As was mentioned in a previous posting, Veblen erects a picture of the rich that is self-condemning. This was definitely not lost on the members of the leisure class during the time this work was first published for it was condemned as being marxist, communist, socialist, or even worse the work of a mere academic. I particularly enjoyed Veblen's use of humor in his work. His dry wit often borders on pure sarcasm. I found myself actually laughing out loud when reading it, which I found quite surprising a reaction to have toward a economic text. Then again, being a child of the 1970's I have an almost instinctive appreciation of sarcasm. I also enjoyed the way in which Veblen forces you to view the world in the manner that he wants you to. Often I could remember examples from my own personal experiences that totally validated the point he was trying to make. I even began to view the world through Veblen's eyes during my everyday activities while I was reading him. I believe that I am not alone in having these reactions, and I hold this to be proof of Veblen's talent and power as a writer. Veblen, of course, is not without his flaws. I find there to be three areas in his analysis that are problematic. The first is his historical analysis of the development of the leisure class, which in detail is in all probability far from the actual case. But I do not find this to be a deadly flaw because it can be seen to serve the role of a necessary fiction in his work, such as the social contract theory served to be in the works of Locke and Rousseau. The second is his use of ethnic groups in his analysis. Not only do I find this to be incorrect on the face of it, but I also find it to be potentially very dangerous. I can see Veblen being a victim of his times on this point, but unfortunately this all too often occurs even today, take the Bell Curve controversy for example. The final flaw is his totally inability to incorporate the women's movement in his overall scheme. Veblen's viewpoint is that it is a de-evolutionary development, but I contend that it's simply a case of the female sex attempting to become a full member in the club of 'vicious consumption'. Perhaps Veblen was a victim of his times on this point as well, but after learning of his many infidelities from a previous posting, I suspect him of being a misoynist by nature. This is all for now. I hope everyone enjoy's reading Milton this month, and I am looking forward to reading many postings (hint, hint). Paul John Barnette Jr. ********************************************************* The Western Canon Mailing List pbarnett@geocities.com The Western Canon WWW Site http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/6681/index.html *********************************************************