********************************** The Western Canon Mailing List Moderator: Paul John Barnette Jr. Activation Date: March 8, 1997 Current Date: June 5, 1997 Current Membership: 61 ********************************** Some comments on Descartes' Discourse on the Method. The is a substantial about of overlap in the Discourse and the Meditations. They both cover the the same ground to a certain extent, but they are also very different in style and tone. The Discourse was meant by Descartes to be read by the educated public, whereas the Meditations were composed for philosophers and theologians. This difference makes the Meditations much more detailed in its philosophic analysis , but what the Discourse losses in the details is more than made up for by Descartes's more personable writing style. It is in the Discourse that we get an idea of Descartes as a man rather than just as a philosopher. To me, when I am reading the Discourse, it is almost as though Descartes is putting his hand on my shoulder and taking me into his confidence. Book I (1) "..when I cast a philosophical eye upon the various activities and undertakings of mankind, there are almost none which I do not consider cain and useless." This rather harsh sentiment is actually rather common among speculative philosophers. They are usually not men of action nor men of the world by temperament, otherwise they would enter an occupation other than philosophy! (2) "..reading good books is like having a conversation with the most distinguished men of past ages - indeed, a rehearsed conversation in which these authors reveal to us only the best of their thoughts.." I could not have said it any better myself! (3) "..those who regulate their conduct by examples drawn from these works are liable to fall into the excesses of the knight- errant in our tales of chivalry; and conceive plans beyond their powers." I realize that it is very likely not the case, but part of me really whishes that Descartes was referring to Cervantes' Don Quixote here. (4) "For it seemed to me that much more truth could be found in the reasonings which a man makes concerning matters that concern him than in those which some scholar makes in his study about speculative matters. For the consequences of the former will soon punish the man if he judges wrongly, whereas the later have no practical consequences and no importance to the scholar except that perhaps the further they are from common sense the more pride he will take in them, since he will have to use so much skill and ingenuity in trying to render them plausible." I actually laughed out loud at this one. Descartes is here taking a shot at the philosophers of his day, which for the most part were scholastic philosophers who were still under the influence of medieval thought. However, I find it curious, yet not surprising, that Descartes does not see himself being condemned by his own statement. I find the passage above to be a very clear and correct description of the scholar, no matter what the subject matter or time period my be. I realize that it is not very flattering, but the truth is not always kind to everyone. I will continue with Book II in a few days. Please post any comments you may have!! Paul John Barnette Jr. ********************************************************* The Western Canon Mailing List pbarnett@geocities.com The Western Canon WWW Site http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/6681/index.html *********************************************************